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| Strawbale Archive for July 2001 |
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| 276 messages, last added Tue Nov 26 17:41:59 2002 |
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[Fwd: Re: SB: RE: Kyoto]
-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: SB: RE: Kyoto
Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2001 17:56:43 +0100
From: Mark and/or Jan Bigland-Pritchard <hyphen@dial.pipex.com>
Organization: Low Energy Design Ltd
To: Valle Kincaid <vkincaid@TreanorArchitects.com>
References: <238E7F52BF05D511885F00105A9AF8770AE1C7@MERCURY>
Valle Kincaid wrote:
>
> uh, have you seen the skies over places like Cairo, Egypt? They have
> Los Angeles beat hands down for air pollution. There are other
> polluters in the world besides us.
>
> I think that making America bear the majority of the burden is
> ridiculous. Thtas basically what the treaty says, "its all America's
> fault so they must fix it." that's why Mr. Shrub hasn't signed it. It
> isn't fairly written.
>
> just my two cents.
>
I wouldn't pay that much for it, I'm afraid. The visible pollution over
Cairo or anywhere else is totally irrelevant to this debate, which is
about carbon dioxide emissions. The point that you cannot avoid is that
the USA is by a considerable margin the world's premier emitter of
carbon dioxide, responsible for about a quarter of the global total.
Some other countries which also chuck out a lot (but not _as_ much) of
the stuff have recognised not only that there is a problem but that we
need to do something about it - and have started to do so (admittedly
rather feebly and with varying degrees of commitment).
Nobody - absolutely nobody - has suggested that the US bear "the
majority of the burden". At Kyoto, the US negotiators managed to get
your country off pretty lightly, considering the vast scope for
reductions that you have (compared to European nations which have
already started to shoulder their share of the responsibility). For
what it's worth, here is a list of the reduction commitments agreed at
Kyoto:
EU (as aggregate) minimum 8% reduction
Bulgaria minimum 8%
reduction Czech republic minimum
8% reduction
Estonia minimum 8% reduction
Latvia minimum 8% reduction
Liechtenstein minimum 8% reduction
Lithuania minimum 8% reduction
Monaco minimum 8% reduction
Romania minimum 8% reduction
Slovakia minimum 8% reduction
Slovenia minimum 8% reduction
Switzerland minimum 8% reduction
USA minimum 7% reduction
Canada minimum 6% reduction
Hungary minimum 6% reduction
Japan minimum 6% reduction
Poland minimum 6% reduction
Croatia minimum 5% reduction
New Zealand maximum 0% increase
Russia maximum 0% increase
Ukraine maximum 0% increase
Norway maximum 1% increase
Australia maximum 8% increase
Iceland maximum 10% increase
(These targets are pretty inadequate as they stand, and were further
diluted by agreements to permit forestry / agriculture to be deemed to
offset emissions.)
I don't see any evidence in the above list for the claim that the US
would bear "the majority of the burden". Do you?
Mark Bigland-Pritchard
Bristol, England
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