SB: Fw: sb: metal frame

["Pski" <pski@pivot.net>]

 

----- Original Message -----

From: Pski

To: Bill Hunt

Sent: Monday, July 30, 2001 10:01 PM

Subject: Re: sb: metal frame

Another idea has come to mind since you mentioned bale size I had not considered. Another lighter, easier to set up style of rack, used for box storage in warehouses, cheaper than the rack, about $20 per section used. As a description it is 12-36" deep in 6" increments built in a ladder truss frame of steel up to 12' high. beams up to 8'long snap fit into incrememented holes in the upright frame for vertical adjustment in 2" range.  The rack will hold 1600# worth of bankers boxes, im sure with a top truss bolted on capacity would be immense. It might take some finanglling to get the bales inside the rack, or the rack around the bales, but it would make a heck of a cheap wall structure that is re-using good steel. If interested I still have some links that show pictures of the stuff, we used to buy it cheap by the warehouseful, about $10 a section, and that usually included a particle board deck or wire deck for each shelf. Check American Surplus or Yankee Supply out of the Boston area, or under Materials Handling on the net. Also, the manufacturers warrant the rack to maintain integrity as long as they are "undamaged" and seismic rate rack for safety reasons. 2 men can set up a section with a screwdriver and a hammer in about 10 minutes (skilled) or 15 (unskilled).

----- Original Message -----

From: Bill Hunt

To: Pski

Sent: Monday, July 30, 2001 12:24 AM

Subject: Re: sb: metal frame

Hi Pski- How about 18" or less deep?  That is the usual width of two string bales.  I'm not sure how you'd fit the bales in otherwise. Seems like you'd want to bury it completely in the wall. Interesting idea, especially if free.  I wonder if the engineering would still apply if they are used.  It sounds like it may be overkill, offhand, but I don't know.   A fast system thats not overbuilt would be nice.  

Cheers- Bill

----- Original Message -----

From: Pski

To: strawbale

Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2001 3:05 PM

Subject: SB: sb: metal frame

Has anyone used in a strawbale an existing metal frame constructed for industrial use, aka a pallet rack upright frame? In a previous job I had, we sold these pre-engineered frames for use in factories for storage, a standard frame has a capacity of 18000 lbs vertical load, with dimensions of 36-42" deep by 12-25' high, cost about $50 US used. They come with boltable foot connections, and would only need to be top tied to maintain a proportion of the original design load. If you havent seen one, go to Home Depot or Sam's Club, etc. to get the gist of it. They can be cut down in length, refabricated or bolted to connection wise, and can be had in quantity sometimes for free if you dont care if they are pretty. I think they would be great in a bale infill, especially if you cut around the posts. They would also lend themselves well to attaching interior fixtures to, as well as running electrical/plumbing. Just an idea, and may not be a cheap as a regular metal stud, or may be better because of the pre-engineering already done by the rack manufacturers.