RE: SB: RE: Robert Pins Fabrication (was Re: SB: Thanks! and netting pins?)

[Valle Kincaid <vkincaid@TreanorArchitects.com>]

well, the one thing i've learned from this 
and other green lists is that green is a 
VERY subjective concept with many varying degrees.

some folks are more militant than others as 
with any alternative lifestyle.

i choose to live as the buddhists say, 
always the middle path.
never too much, nor too little. 
moderation in all things.

seems to work well for me.

peace
valle

-----Original Message-----
From: Marcus Hardwick [mailto:marcus1@sonic.net]
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 1:07 AM
To: strawbale@crest.org
Subject: Re: SB: RE: Robert Pins Fabrication (was Re: SB: Thanks! and
netting pins?)




Valle Kincaid wrote:
> 
> or you can purchase whatever you need from
> 
> http://www.buildingforhealth.com/strawbale.html


Well, yeah. But consider the embodied energy involved in the shipping from
Carbondale Colorado to the west coast of N.A. where I am. Plus the shipping
from
where-ever *they* come from to Carbondale, and so on. 

Better, perhaps, to find local pre-used wire and cut it/bend it up.
Here-abouts
vineyard wire is plentiful. And it's already here!

I see that bamboo for pinning is available from Carbondale. Around here most
retail bamboo comes from Southeast Asia. Lots of diesel to push them
container
boats along. Is this Colorado bamboo grown locally? I don't think so. And if
it
were, why ship it away? Use it locally.

There can be more sustainable (actually less unsustainable) ways of building
than having materials shipped in from all corners of the earth.

Not to pick on the above referenced outfit, but there seems to be a common
notion that if some building system is considered "green" then it's somehow
okay
to go to great lengths to obtain it. Rather missing the point it would seem.

Rice straw makes good construction bales but if what you have locally is
flax,
then by all means use flax (or barley or wheat etc).


OK, deranting and returning to warp speed.

Marcus

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