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Strawbale Archive for October 2001
236 messages, last added Tue Nov 26 17:42:19 2002

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SB: Re: Re: Re: Re: Question about strawbale house on stilts



Guy,

Hold on--are you assuming that natural soil is 100% compact and all you have
to do is excavate he footing?

Acceptable soil conditions depends on a lot of factors and one can not just
dig and not expect to have problems later.

We are currently working in an area that has not been previously disturbed
and had to dig down 6'-0", fill and compact back to grade.  The soil volume
loss on compaction is 35-40%.

If you want to see what houses on stilts look like and happen to be in
California, look around Beverly Hills on Roscomare Rd or throughout  the
Hollywood Hills.  On some of these the only thing on "tierra firma" is the
driveway apron--everything else is suspended on anything from steel beams,
concrete columns or timbers. Oh..........by the way they do come down on
their own once in awhile, especially during the rainy season.

Here's a not so wonderful
http://www.prolandscapeinc.com/Pin%20Pile%20Driving.htm

For some design considerations see
http://www.psw.fs.fed.us/Tech_Pub/Documents/GTR-50/struct.html

For development in Colorado Springs
http://www.springsgov.com/Page.asp?NavID=1177

Use of a drill rig http://www.prolandscapeinc.com/Pin%20Pile%20Driving.htm

I would not recommend hillside development for the even the average builder
and not at all for a novice.


SANCO Enterprises, LLC
Paul Salas, General Manager
P.O. Box 45741
Rio Rancho, NM  87174
(505)  238-1485
chansey@earthlink.net

----- Original Message -----
From: "GuyW" <guyiii@home.com>
To: "Bill Hunt" <billhunt@redrock.net>; "S. G. Fawthrop"
<S.G.Fawthrop@Eklectika.net>; "Strawbale List" <Strawbale@crest.org>
Sent: Saturday, October 27, 2001 9:29 PM
Subject: SB: Re: Re: Re: Question about strawbale house on stilts


> Bill: even with heavy equipment, its hard to achieve the same level of
> compaction as native soil.  Even 90%+ compaction is 90%+ of laboratory
> compaction, not native.
>
> The settlement is only noticeable when you slab or walls crack  :o)
>
> -Guy- from Sandy Eggo, the birthplace of construction defect litigation.
>
>
> > > Just thought I'd point out that standard practice (assuming the in
place
> > > soil is fairly dense / compact) is to also excavate the "cut" section,
> so
> > > that there is not a "hard" line between fill soils that will settle,
and
> > cut
> > > areas that will not.
> > >
> > > -Guy-
> >
> > Hi Guy- Assuming you meant "excavate the "fill" section", that is news
to
> > me, but I'm not an excavation guy :-).   I have run a gas powered tamper
> > over fill sections on commercial jobs (something like a Yellow
Submarine-
> > inspired single foot, with ferocious stomping power), and if you do that
> as
> > the engineer specs (4" lifts, or 6" or  8" or whatever), with a bit of
> > water, I find it
> > hard to believe there will be any noticeable settling.
> >
> > Cheers from the Wasatch- Bill
>
>
>
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