SB: Re: Re: Meeting Hall for el Lupo and Friends

["John Swearingen" <john@skillful-means.com>]

Well, as a matter of fact, some straw vaults have been built for immediate
occupancy but designed to be either torn down and composted after first use;
or later plastered and saved for the longer run.  With the tying system
used, for instance, with our vault in Joshua Tree, the structure is improved
by plaster only to the extent that it's a little stiffer--it's not any more
likely to fall down and hurt anyone just because there is plaster on the
bales.  Consequently one could convoke without fear.

Beer bottles have been  investigated and sucessfully used as a building
material.  I'm told that Mr. Heiniken himself, upon noting the abundance of
beer and the paucity of good housing in the Dutch Carribean, sponsored such
research and sucessfully, I'm told, devised some workable plans. He also
considered altering the shape of his bottles to make them more suitable for
building.

If that were the plan, the Corroborees have two options:  plant trees in a
circle to commemorate the event and provide for future building; drink lots
of beer to leave for future building projects--or both.  They could also
leave the place without a trace--except what lingers in the hearts and minds
of the participants.

John (Is it "Beerhead" or "Balehead") Swearingen



----- Original Message -----
From: "Robert W. Tom" <archilogic@yahoo.ca>
To: "Trkstr" <trkstr@hotmail.com>; <strawbale@crest.org>
Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2002 9:48 PM
Subject: SB: Re: Meeting Hall for el Lupo and Friends


> Tricky and Ricky;
>
> The thing with flat-roofed kivas and  gers (aka "yurts") is that
> they would likely require the use of trees.  (I didn't find an image
> of the kivas of which Rick spoke so I don't know what the stucture
> looks like so I'm just ass-u-me-ing that it would require flexural
> members which would most likely have to be trees.
>
> I'm also assuming that the site in Australia is not one where
> trees are so abundant that one could justify the use of a lot
> of them to construct a structure that will be used for a week
> at most.
>
> I'm also assuming that an enclosed structure is needed so that
> the congregants can be indoors protected from an unrelentingly
> hot outdoors (quite possibly due in part to the landscape being
> devoid of trees ?)  otherwise something like a tent  or marquee
> would suffice ?
>
> If all of the above assumptions are accurate, then a flat roof
> due to its lack of altitude wouldn't provide sufficient stack effect
> to induce the pumping of air through the interior to create the
> sensation of cooling. I'm assuming that installing mechanical
> cooling is not an option that would be considered and that
> a hall full of hot bodies in a hot climate would get old really fast.)
>
> Hence the notion for a dome (truncated cone to be more accurate)
> made of  corbelled bales.
>
> The thought occurred that it might be a nice touch to have the Corroboree
> attendees plant a circle of trees ringing the bale dome so that long after
> the dome has returned to the earth, a memory of the dome and the
Corroboree
> will remain on the landscape to provide shade and shelter to anyone who
happens
> upon the site. ( I had considered the idea of a vine-covered trellis as a
roof, but
> that to would require lumber and those Aussies would probably spend all
their time
> trying to make wine out of the grapes .)
>
> A really ambitious and optimistic person might even weave the
> trees so that they would grow into a  living dome for future Corroborees
> twenty or thirty years in the future.
>
> The "spiral" roof (requiring dead trees) that Trickster speaks of may be a
> "reciprocal roof", something that el Lupo has built a few of in his day
> and possibly even had published in The Last Straw sometime within the
> past year. Maybe he has an image of one at his website ?
> http://strawbale.archinet.com.au
>
> In any case, since the List seems to be  uh...  listless and sleepy
> these days, it might help to get the creative juices flowing if people
> were to toss out some other proposals for el Lupo's Meeting Hall .
>
> PS  I had considered a structure made out of a plentiful Australian
> resource ... empty beer containers.
>
>
> 1/14/02 2:05:58 AM, "Trkstr" <trkstr@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> >Yes, Kivas are great but I would think a Yurt
>
> [snip]
>
>  > Or the roof constructed in a spiral.  Its late and I cannot remember
what the spiral
> >roof construction is called or where the url for that site is.... [snip]
>
>
> --- * ---
> Rob Tom
> Kanata, Ontario, Canada
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