SB: Re: Clear Skies OT Apologies

["Rey Arbolay" <TXH2344@mynra.com>]

Once more I find myself in agreement but in need to clarify. I too 
would love to go full solar (living in TX and all) but how can I 
buy a system for 20-30 thousand dollars? Its funny. I walk in to a 
car dealership and bought a 23,000 dollar car in 2 hours with no 
problems. Try to do the same with a solar panel system that should 
last 4 times longer than a car.
 The problem once more is profitability and marketing, not 
regulation. On the other hand, regulation is stopping the 
development of bio diesels and other bio fuels. Restrictions on 
diesel engines and on fuel producers has stiffled production of a 
very clean renewable fuel
 A clarification. The President of the United States (regardless 
of who) does not write laws or regulations. Congress writes laws 
and burrocrats write regulations to enforce the laws as 
interpreted by them. All the President does is propose a direction 
for laws and reject those laws that he disagrees with.
If you want to insure that the law is structured in a comon sense 
maner, it is the congress who you should address not the 
president. Just my 2 cents.


---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
From: Pat Chalmers <pchalmers@workforceflorida.com>
Date:  Fri, 15 Feb 2002 10:54:16 -0500

>>From an American point of view, I agree.  I back pedal a little 
when I view
>myself as the consumer.  I would give anything to be able to do 
solar on the
>property we are improving - when I started figuring the cost, it 
was going
>to be more money than our house will cost.  Very Catch-22.  Pat 
in FL
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Rey Arbolay [mailto:TXH2344@mynra.com]
>Sent: Friday, February 15, 2002 10:31 AM
>To: strawbale@crest.org
>Subject: SB: Re: Clear Skies OT Apologies
>
>
>This is my understanding of the new policy based on listening to 
>his speech and proposals. The core of his proposal is not to 
>restrict industry with a blanket policy or regulation (it does 
not 
>work) or to mandate conservation (ask Californians if it works, 
>the only reason demand dropped in Cali was because of the prices 
>for electricity, supply and demand and all that) but to promote 
>through tax credits and government grants the development of 
clean 
>technologies. No he does not dictate what technologies. Doing so 
>would defeat the purpose. In a free society you state what needs 
>to be done, stand back, and be amazed at the results. For this 
>capitalism must be allowed to freely flourish. Countries who have 
>tried otherwise have failed. I know. I served for a decade in the 
>intra german border. After the fall of the wall i drove to the 
>eastern side. It was like traveling to an alternate dimension. 
The 
>polution, dirt and decay in the former comunist germany was 
>apaling. I have also traveled to "free" but underdeveloped 
>countries. And please do not begin the rant about under developed 
>countries been the fault of the US. This countries tax payers 
give 
>more money to help in their development than all other countries 
>combined. These under developed countries are cesspools of 
>pollution. Don believe me? try drinking the water in most south 
>american or central american countries.
>So how do you clean up the environment? BY making it profitable. 
>Siemens will only develop a better solar panel if they can sell 
>it. Plug powers fuel cells or Electric fuels zero emision bus 
will 
>only be a reality if they can find buyers. Only wealthy countries 
>can make this happen. That is the core problem with Kyoto an all 
>other treaties. It attempts to place restrictions that would 
>destroy a rich countries ability to clean the environment. By its 
>implementation you take away the only true way to solve the 
>problem. OK enough of my rant. bottom line, want to clean the 
>environment? Make it profitable.
>
>
>---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
>From: "Huff 'n' Puff Constructions" <huffnpuff@shoal.net.au>
>Date:  Fri, 15 Feb 2002 14:23:37 +1100
>
>>G ' day Balers
>>
>>Apologies in advance for this off topic subject but I need some 
>observations
>>from the other side of the world to assist my thinking.  So if 
>you do not
>>want to read further, and I will keep it short, 'the delete key 
>is your best
>>friend'.  I do not want to start any wars here just want the 
>truth if
>>possible and reply to me off list if you prefer to, so as we do 
>not take up
>>other peoples' band width on an off topic subject.
>>
>>Just heard on the Aussie radio, George W. Bush speaking about 
the 
>new USA
>>policy on the environment called "Clear Skies".  Sounds like he 
>has got his
>>act together, at first glance, saving 4.9 million American jobs 
>and some 400
>>billion dollars in lost economy if theUSA and (Australia) had 
>adopted the
>>Kyoto Protocol.  Just also heard litle Johnnie Howard, our Prime 
>Minister,
>>supporting George W. on this idea.
>>
>>Must be something wrong somewhere, what does he mean by Clear 
>Skies?   Does
>>this mean nuclear power?  Can someone please help me as I am in 
>the middle of
>>preparing the bones of the agenda for the International SB 
>Conference 2002.
>>One of the streams that we are promoting for the conference is 
>sustainable
>>energy consumption for the built environment.
>>
>>Cannot find anything on my search engine on Clear Skies re 
George 
>W.  Thanks
>>for your help in advance and my apologies once again but you are 
>the only mob
>>I can get any sense out of or should I say truth out of.
>>
>>Kind regards The Straw Wolf
>>http://strawbale.archinet.com.au
>>61 2 6927 6027
>>
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