Re: SB: Stucco ingredient volume

["George Dalla Betta" <gjdb@attbi.com>]

Charmaine

I have your book and therefore the GenLim instructions.  Yes I hope Harry
chimes in.

My original intentions in the question was to get the required volume then
maybe add 50% for error so I only had to haul it in once.  I am pretty far
out.  The lime I found is 200 miles away.  Cement and sand is only :) 32
miles.

Yes your right the 1:2:9 is NLA.  Sorry for attributing it to you.  I was
using the 1:2:9 only as an example.  I thought that the bags of lime and
cement were the same size?  The cement weights 90 vice lime 50?

I am a little worried about the wind in my area.  For example, while putting
up roof sheets this summer, I had to do it in a 4 hour period in the AM.
Then the wind starts and a person holding one of these roof panels is called
a kite.  The wind in the summer are called (by me only I am sure) pee pee
winds.  Now in late fall and early winter the REAL winds start!  I am not
completely stupid, however, I am not up on a bare knoll.  There are trees
all around but the wind still "leaks" thru.

I intend no stucco until spring, too cold.  My intention is to minimize
(where very very safe) all this stiffening stuff you put on the walls (pins,
stucco wire, huge airplane cable cross bracing, etc) and that result in more
expense (really use of precious resources) and some really ugly stuff you
have to get that scratch coat to cover up (and put on lath and put on paper
and . . .).  The consensus that I hear on the list is that the stucco/SB
sandwich is strong enough to be a plenty safe wall but then I have to
contend with the slow setting of this beautiful  lime stucco.  I don't want
it blown over while I am watching my nice walls firming up.  So I am
thinking hard on what I could do to artificially "harden" the walls while
firming up.  Things like stucco inside and outside at the same time unlike
the usual practice of dryin first.  Maybe some 2x4s like they do when they
tilt these stick built walls in place and brace them.  Maybe some stiffer,
very flat stucco wire on the inside despite not wanting to.  Maybe sneak in
some OPC.

By the way, your response about the soaking not swelling the volume really
helped.  I should have figured it out from your book but I'm a dah
sometimes.

I'm thinking very hard about reducing the volume of hydrating lime to
something that people can carry up steps so that I can put it in 5 gal
canisters and storing it in the basement of another house that does not
freeze.

George Dalla Betta

----- Original Message -----
From: "Charmaine R Taylor" <tms@northcoast.com>
To: "George Dalla Betta" <gjdb@attbi.com>
Cc: <strawbale@crest.org>; <calxa@aol.com>
Sent: Sunday, October 27, 2002 9:45 PM
Subject: Re: SB: Stucco ingredient volume


> HI
>

SNIP

 basically 8% OPC, 17 % lime, 75% sand and water unknown.
>
> HI George... 1:2:6 is the NLA formula NOT MINE for stucco of lime.
>
> I like pure lime for plastering...but if you follow theirs I think you
will still need LESS than 20 bags as lime gives more  actual volume per bag.
>
> However I have not ordered that much lime for ANY job so I am hoping Harry
Francis will answer this if he knows the calcs.
>
>
> The lime isn't swelling, it just adds water to become a soft putty, and I
believe

snip
>
> the NLA 1:2 ratio is by volume DRY as I recall. so you wont get the
advantage of soaking the lime as you would with a pure lime plaster.
>
> any reason you want to add the cement? faster set for winter??
>
> Ms. Charmaine  Taylor/ Taylor Publishing



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